#105 – Internal Sex vs. External Sex
Each person has an internal and external reality. And while some might argue that a person’s internal reality is subjective compared to physical reality, it is our internal reality that connects us to our sense of purpose and belonging, which gives our lives meaning and fulfillment.
Internal sex means being real and selfless with your partner. It's all about developing a genuine internal relationship wherein sex is seen as a foundation for a solid connection between spouses. Being spiritually and emotionally naked and vulnerable allows us to discover pieces of ourselves we didn't even know existed and to discover the genuine meaning of intimacy.
Understanding the rhythm of your partner and learning how to adjust to it is an important factor in intimacy. It is learning about your partner’s whole being and building a good momentum rhythmically that creates a beautiful harmony in your relationship.
In episode 105, Andrew and Benjy talk about the difference between internal and external sex. They also highlight what rhythm is and its importance in the foundation of a healthy relationship, as well as, the negative impact of porn on how people view and define sex.
Listen to learn more about what internal sex is, the idea of rhythm, the importance of being an internal person, and so much more!
What is internal sex?
The characteristic of an internal person
The difference between selfless sex and selfish sex
Real sex is allowing oneself to be vulnerable
What is rhythm in sex?
Quality vs. quantity
What is selflessness in sex?
The spiritual side of sex
Episode Transcript:
Andrew Love
Welcome back to Love, Life and Legacy, the podcast dedicated to helping you navigate these hypersexualized times. And in today's episode, Benjy and I go off on a very interesting and crucial topic that you're going to want to understand and execute in your life if you want lasting joy and happiness. That is the internal nature to sexuality. You see, if you get any education at all in the realm of sex, it's always to do with the mechanics and never to do with the meaning and the deeper nuance and the spice of life which is internal, your emotions, your spirituality. And so, we're going to talk about how that plays into sex and how you can find rhythms in your life, whether you're a single person or whether you're in a relationship, in order to really get the most out of the internal nature that we have within us, and how that pertains to sex? So if this sounds like the coolest episode in the world, or not, regardless, trust me. This episode is important. Listen, learn, grow. Happy to see you back.
Welcome back, everybody. Andrew Love here along with...
Benjy Uyama
Benjy. Benjamin.
Andrew Love
What we do matters now, since the videos, we're going to use the videos.
Benjy Uyama
Yes, we're repurposing for YouTube. That's right.
Andrew Love
All of our gesticulations will be documented for posterity. Today, we're going to talk about internal sexuality because we always talk about sex, and people often talk about porn and even advocate for porn thinking about humanity is a very one-dimensional being. That we're just animals that just have sexual desires. And they leave it at that. They just package it, say, see? And then most people just thoughtlessly agree with that like, yes, we're animals. So therefore when we want sex, we should have sex. And you're completely ignoring the internal reality of a human, which is obviously far more important. Because that connects us to our sense of purpose, our sense of belonging, our sense of connection, all these things that actually make life enjoyable and rich. And you're not factoring that in at all. So how does the internal play into sexuality? How does that work? And what is spiritual sex look like versus just physical sex, or emotional or mental? I guess those are the dimensions that we typically tackle. So Benjy, have you ever thought about this?
Benjy Uyama
So Andrew, no, I haven't.
Andrew Love
Well, I think about this stuff all the time because I am so sensitive to the environment and to people, to emotional stuff. And so, if I don't get a good grip on how this stuff works, how it operates in my life, then I'm a mess. So I've really come to the conclusion that if a couple has too many encounters of physical sex alone, without the emotion, without any sense of spiritual connection, they're actually putting a crevice in between each other. It's like, the more sex they have heartlessly without spirit, the more that they're going to feel estranged from each other and feel alienated from each other. And I've seen that occurred time and again, it's like, well, we're having a lot of sex but I just don't feel close. And it's because you're seeing sex as the end instead of the means, which is it's a means to intimacy. Ideally, it's meant to bring us closer. And what is intimacy? It's a sense of closeness that's perceived through emotion, through spirit. And I've seen that very recently in my own life is like, if my wife and I have any semblance of a dry spell, and I'm like, hey, can you just hook a brother up just to get on by. Throw me some change. And if she acquiesces...
And so, if that ever happens, and she acquiesces because she wants us to both be happy, but if she's just doing it to please me but she's not into it, it's completely devoid of meaning. It's like eating Chinese food, they say. Not to harp on Chinese food, but what Chinese food used to be. So back in the 80s, there was no Thai food in America. There are no Pho restaurants. Not that there are now. No sushi, like that. It was just Chinese food, and a lot of it was really cheap. And you would go there and eat a ton and then you'd walk away. That was an old joke. It's like five minutes after you eat a meal at a Chinese restaurant, you're hungry again. The same thing is true and you have heartless sex. It doesn't really fill you up with the nutrients that you're looking for. So Benjy, now I'm throwing it back to you. People have had their fill of me. Can you do that on any level? Have you had instances in your life, or have you heard other people that have had instances where they've had physical sex but it was devoid of the richness of the internal self?
Benjy Uyama
Yes.
Andrew Love
Creates some sort of problem?
Benjy Uyama
Well, first, I just want to say, I think we grew up in different decades.
Andrew Love
Absolutely. I'm a decade over.
Benjy Uyama
I'm a 90s, and you're an 80s kid, right? I'm a 90s kid. So my junk food is McDonald's.
Andrew Love
Bro, we had McDonald's. McDonald's has been around since...
Benjy Uyama
I know but it's like, McDonald's is not the worst thing. And there's a lot of junk food but we always harp on McDonald's in the 90s because they think we had documentaries and things come out at the time. Anywho, yes, I resonate with that. I can share from personal experience. This is really a deep topic that you basically won't find any such information online. It's actually quite hard to find the meaning of internal sex, the meaning of committed relationships. For me and my relationship with my wife, she is very much the internal person. And I thank God, I thank the universe for it because if she was like me, and she was just ready to go and have sex whenever, or on the other sense if she was just like you were saying, said yes out of diligence and obligation even though she wasn't feeling it, I think we would be in a very dire-ditch in our relationship. I think we would really suffer. But thank God, even though it was so hard for most of our blessings, we struggled in this area where I wanted to be more intimate but she wasn't feeling internally, emotionally connected with me most of the time for various reasons. We don't have to get into that. But in the end, she follows her heart. My wife follows her heart. I think this is something that some people do really well, and some people don't do well, but she followed her heart no matter what. Maybe it's a female trait. I'm not sure.
Andrew Love
Men of hearts don't start rumors.
Benjy Uyama
We do but, okay, let's just say it's a Hoon Dok Hae trade. Maybe some of you can resonate with this, regardless of man or woman.
Andrew Love
Hoon Dok Hae as a person or Hoon Dok Hae as an idea or metaphor? The coolest Hoon Dok Hae in New Orleans.
Benjy Uyama
Hoon Dok Hae is the internal person. She's a characteristic of the internal person that values quality over quantity always, every time, and follows her heart no matter what. And she won't budge unless she's feeling it. She loves singing. But as soon as I pluck the guitar and say, hey, do I sing a song? She's like, no. She's not doing that. She doesn't budge unless she's feeling it from inside her. That's what she said.
Andrew Love
He's having a good moment. Hey, Joe!
Benjy Uyama
But I thank God for her. Literally, years of our blessing were just this pain point in our relationship. It's not in our bodies. I was trying to go full speed ahead, 100 miles an hour, but she was not feeling the internal connection and connectivity first and foremost. And I didn't provide that. And that's not her. That's us. I never realized that until I did, until I took action on it. But it was really just me trying to force something that was unnatural. And I thank God. Honest to God, I thank her that she was like that. And now it's like, we're talking about internal sex even just a few days ago. Hundred-eighty degrees like now, this is getting a little raunchy for you guys who are single, I think. Well, we've had an internal lovemaking session where it was just really passionate. Not like porn, passionate like that kind. You could feel the Spirit and you could connect with each other, and it was just selfless. That's the point. It was selfless sex and not selfish sex. And I've been on the end of selfish sex so many times with my relationship with my wife or through masturbation. It's just that when you act like that, you have no desire to give. You have no desire to even think about the other person. And when you're in that state, the feeling afterward is not, I'm on top of the world! Where'd she go? That's how you feel. If you have a genuine internal relationship, you feel that afterward. You feel like the next day, you're just on fire, you're connected, you're ready to go. But if you're selfish, you’re feeling what guys? It's deflated, literally and figuratively. You're deflated. You're just like, ah, I did again. I'm just using my sexual organ for myself, as opposed to selflessly.
Andrew Love
Yes, I hear you. That brings up a lot. Because if you think about it, in every kind of Power Rangers, there's also a show back in the day called Voltron, which was re-made in Netflix. And it's this idea of, they're only really powerful when they combine forces. That's when they can take on the big demons. And it seems like the way that you describe sexuality is similar where if you're just one person alone, and even if you're in the act of sex, but you're not really together with the person emotionally and all that, then it's a really hollowed-out experience in your mind much power. But your personal Voltron or your personal Power Rangers is when you stack your mind on top of your heart and top of your spirit and then use your body to do something powerful, and the other person is doing the same thing, that's when it becomes this really meaningful event. And that's, I think, a big part of it. And I could see that recently, too, is like you need sex to mean something. Otherwise, the relationship stops meaning something after a period of time. It's like how many empty conversations can you have with somebody before you just don't want to talk to that person anymore because you know exactly what you're going to talk about, the jokes that you can anticipate, the same jokes that you're going to tell, you can anticipate exactly where things are going to go. It's all predictable. And that's because you're not talking about anything deep. If you really go deep, you're like uncharted territory even within yourself. There's still stuff within us that we don't understand. And when we allow ourselves to be vulnerable, we can explore new parts of ourselves. And like true intimacy, I guess real sex is when you both allow yourselves to be vulnerable. And I had a conversation with somebody the other day, and that's what brought up this topic was practicing being spiritually naked. Not physically naked. Everybody in the world, thanks to porn, knows about physical nudity and how that whole thing works. But do you think anybody, if you really look at porn and you really look at hookup culture and the way that we view sex, is any of those people really spiritually and emotionally naked while they're physically having sex? And the answer is, for the most part, no. For the most part, you go out of your way to not be spiritually and emotionally vulnerable, and naked in front of somebody because that could hurt you. That's why people are much more likely to have sex in this kind of modern society than they are to say, I love you to each other. I love you comes after you had sex. The hookup culture.
So yes, in essence, the idea of being spiritually and emotionally vulnerable even if you want to do it, takes practice because it's not an easy thing to do especially if you have a history with somebody. I guess in both. If you're new with somebody, it's hard because you're still getting to know each other, learning how to trust each other. But also, when you've been through stuff with another person, there's some pain sometimes. You get into fights and all that, and letting yourself be vulnerable again is a skill for sure to bounce back. And that really impacts your ability to be intimate with somebody, truly intimate, like to feel like you're really right there with them.
Benjy Uyama
I think this is one of the primary disadvantages and cons of masturbating or developing that habit of masturbation and porn because you're training your body, your mind to be sexually aroused by self-centered sexuality, essentially. So when you are in a committed relationship, well, first of all, there are ramifications on your body. If you've trained yourself to only be stimulated by masturbating to specific content online, even the act of having a sexual relationship is difficult because you've had that strong sexual imprinting. Usually from a young age on specific content, stimulating yourself in a very specific way, it's very different, strikingly different experience have real sex. And on top of that, there's the reality that you've developed the habit of satisfying yourself. So sex becomes of how can I satisfy myself? Maybe it's not intentional, but it's a habit that you bring with you. And then basically, sex becomes self-masturbation through using someone else. You know what I'm saying?
Andrew Love
Yes, for sure.
Benjy Uyama
And I've experienced that. It's a terrible feeling. But this is one of the many disadvantages and drawbacks of developing masturbation, and why there's a huge push in the movement right now to like NoFap. I think it's the actual organization or company that started it.
Andrew Love
I once online used the term "NoFap" in some forum, and I got struck down.
Benjy Uyama
Was it trademarked?
Andrew Love
Yes, apparently.
Benjy Uyama
So it's like a movement. There's a subreddit with almost 1 million people in it who are practicing this and posting every day. And it's a huge movement because people are seeing the benefits of it outside of just any spiritual or religious reasons, which are important, of course. But it's also because it's practical. It helps you focus. It helps you direct yourself in a productive way.
Andrew Love
If you can, because I think part of that is they don't want to be affiliated with spirituality or anything. And there are some people who are completely averse to any mention of spirituality. They just do it for very practical reasons. But the whole thing about, I remember hearing a lot of discussion about how drugs numb your ability. Parts of your brain, but numb your ability to really authentically connect to spirit, to God, because you've messed with the wiring. So it's just harder to find that frequency of God because your brain's all jumbled up. But I would say the same thing is true of porn, and that kind of stuff really jumbles the natural flow of your brain. It creates all these knots in the machinery of your sexuality. And to untangle that takes time. And I also wanted to mention, while you were talking about Hoon Dok Hae This idea of rhythm is so clear when you get... because the other person that you're in a relationship with always has some different type of rhythm. Whether it's sleep like, oh I'm a morning person, versus that person who hates morning. Or eating, how much you eat and when you're most hungry, and what you eat at a certain time. That's hunger rhythms. There are emotional rhythms, which are never the same. Men and women are very different. But also, just people are so different, one to the next when they're happy when they're sad.
So there are all these rhythms that really factor into intimacy as well as like, you need to first build some really good momentum rhythmically with the other person where you're working together and creating some harmony. And then based on that foundation, then you come together physically. But it's hard to really jump from fighting to loving. And I know some people really advocate if you're fighting and have sex, and that will open things up. Maybe for all the Italians out there that might work. But it really is hard to just forgive. To go in the heat of battle to be like, oh let's forgive and love. Again, I don't know. That was fake Italian. Just this idea of, let's just wipe away all the pain that we just experienced and hop back right into happiness without addressing, didn't you just call me a selfish jerk? I think that's still in me, can we take that out first before we get back?
So the process of really getting into a rhythm by apologizing, by having a good conversation, by praying together, meditating together like going outside of talking but communicating on a deeper level together. Doing stuff together like going on a bike ride, and creates this rhythm where there's some natural harmony and synergy. You're creating this invisible flow of something between you. And then based on that, then you make love that's completely different. Completely different. And that's all the work that you're doing in between. And that contributes to while you're physically naked, then to just naturally... Like when you're in a good state with Hoon Dok Hae, it's so easy to just grab her and hug her and kiss her.
Benjy Uyama
This morning.
Andrew Love
Exactly, because there's a magnetic attraction. But when you're fighting, you do not feel welcome. It's like, your Do Not Disturb sign all over. And say, I get very prickly. When I'm upset, it's like, have a look, and my wife doesn't even come within a five-meter radius. So that flow is really, really important. And it's all internal.
Benjy Uyama
Yes, I totally resonated with that. To me, a part of that process is learning how to become a team, which is probably the cheesiest thing I've ever said. I think that is when the rubber hits the road. That's how couples can overcome literally any aggression or transgression in their relationship. Any difficulty is when they look at the issue as a team, as opposed to you're attacking me, you're offensive to me and taking defense. But how do we address this as a team? It's hard to do. Easier said than done. But that's really what it takes. If we talk about examples like pornography, when a spouse together, if a couple can address the issue of the habit as a team, as opposed to you're doing this against me and I'm being offended, of course, it's difficult. But how do you figure out this as a team? How do we get educated? How do we get help and the support we need? Even couples that are going through the most egregious offenses like affairs, how do they get through that? Almost sounds impossible, but they do it through getting on the same page and repenting together, and learning how to overcome it together and grow from the experience together. For you too and I, I keep going back to my example, because, for me, this is the most real and raw example I can give. Like you were saying, rhythm for us, it was like monthly cycles. It was clear that Hoon Dok Hae has monthly cycles. PMS and her mood swings were pretty hard for me to deal with. So till I started to actually research with Wikipedia, how does PMS work? I was like, oh my goodness, this is actually biochemically changing her body. Her hormones are actually changing. It's not just a thing that people say. So I got on the same page with her and the same team, and we're able to manage that part of her life together through healthy alternatives and different teas, and I don't know. Different stuff she's doing. And then also like, we decided to move from New Jersey to North Carolina. That was a team effort. We're really like, okay.
Andrew Love
That's the problem right here. You are in New Jersey. That's where all problems start.
Benjy Uyama
We love New Jersey. We love the people in New Jersey, but not the place.
Andrew Love
You do well in politics, my friend.
Benjy Uyama
Andrew and I lived in the same town at different times for years. So when we decided like, hey, let's figure this together, instead of me thinking, oh, you're doing this because you hate me and I'm still offended, which is how I felt for years. I'm realizing like, okay, she's going through stuff, I get that. Let's figure out what we can do together. And that's what it takes to get the rhythm in check, I think.
Andrew Love
Absolutely. I like it a lot. And these rhythms, this idea of rhythm, and you mentioned it before, we're kind of going fast. You're speeding ahead. And that's the whole thing is like, yes, because if you're out of sync rhythmically, one person is racing ahead but probably in a different direction. Because if you're just off by a little bit over time, that ends up being huge... you feel like this giant void in your relationship. So then racing doesn't work. And that's why more of something bad doesn't make you healthier, more junk food doesn't make you healthier. And you were mentioning that Hoon Dok Hae likes fewer things but good quality. And that seems very Japanese, by the way. If you go to a Japanese restaurant, it's not huge portions like at Applebee's, but it's actually good food. You can eat 10 plates of Applebee's and get the same nutritional level as one cup of edamame at a sushi restaurant.
So yes, that quality versus quantity and this idea, especially I think for guys. And now, to dispel this, I've heard from a number of guys whose wives have much higher sex drives than they do. But obviously, that's the exception to the general. Most guys that we know generally want sex more than the wives. But looking at that, more equals what? Does more equal better? Or does better equal better? And finding that rhythm of like, hey, let's say you want it five days a week, she wants it one day a week, how can you start to find a rhythm where both of you start to want something similar? The guy gives up quantity for quality, and the woman starts enjoying it more and wants more of it because it's more enjoyable. And a lot of times we know, guys. We know plenty of guys who ruined the latter part of their relationship. Let's say, they've been married for 40 years. In the second, third, and fourth decades of their relationship, they suffered a lot because their wives didn't really want anything to do with sex because in that first decade, they were really selfish. And they torched the field, so to speak. So the soil was not fertile anymore. And the wife was like, yes, no, this is not good for me so I'm out. And then the guy's like, come on, I need it. It's a need. But they were completely rhythmically off.
Benjy Uyama
What's really crazy to me is that it seems pretty obvious to me that we are designed to be selfless. The way that men and women warm up to sex in the bedroom, for the vast majority of people, men and women sex drives are different. If you're different, you're normal. And women take a long time, generally speaking, to warm up. And men generally are like instant pots, and women are like slow cookers. So it's crazy like your saying goes, couples that really struggle at the beginning of the relationship more so than not, it was because one of them was not taking time not being selfless, instead of just trying to get the act done in order to satisfy themselves or procreate or whatever. If you don't have that selflessness, you can't both sexually be satisfied. It's pretty cool actually, to me.
Andrew Love
Yes, Uncle Dave talks a lot about that in his couple's talks where a lot of people think it's just the cruel design flaw that man is so quick to achieve orgasm, and women take a lot longer. But Uncle Dave always mentions that that's really to create that rhythm where you both meet in the middle. And that happens much more when you learn about the other person and care about them. And that's all spirit. A practical way of understanding the spiritual side of sex, you don't have to worry about angels or anything like that because that starts to get really weird really fast. But it's just this thing that your body clearly wants to go fast and be selfish. And your mind is more inclined to hang out with your body. They're like Best Buddies. They're politically aligned. They have the same desire politically, which is to just be happy easily. But then the spirit works with the emotion to slow the body down. The emotion tells the spirit, hey, can we slow this train down a little bit so we can enjoy it? And then the spirit facilitates this whole thing from happening, because it's not the body independent, and it's not the brain. There's something beyond that which is invisible, that is like a desire to want to please and can control the mind and can control the body. But you have to be spiritually in it to win it, first and foremost. And that's something that requires some diligence and some perseverance. And like, I'm constantly training my body to understand its place in this whole thing that I take care of with vitamins, good food, and all that. But I also teach it that it's the servant to the rest of them. And we're like, I don't serve into the hard work but like, it's the youngest brother in this food chain. So cold showers, waking up early, going to the gym really early in the morning, all this stuff so that I can do the rest of it. So that I can get my spirit to tell my body to do what it wants rather than having the pendulum be on the side of the body because then you're screwed.
I would say, if your body's running this ship, you are in trouble. That's tricky because it's a lie. The body and the mind always conspire together to be like, kinda you can have another chat. No, that's fine. It's merely chatting, just having another donut. But don't say oh, it's basically just like bread and grits kind of like guilty. So you said five doughnuts. Yes, you're right. But if you can see them for these conniving little things like you need them and they're healthy, but they will work against you if they're not disciplined. And the same happens in the area of sex, for sure. In order to really be present, you have to slow things down, and that's completely spiritual. Because your body wants to go a million miles an hour like a bunny rabbit and be done quickly. Your mind is just along for the ride. And then your emotions can get swept up in it. So internally, it's like, okay, rhythms. That's the theme that came up today. Rhythms, getting into the same rhythm. And if you're single, learn about your rhythms too. Learning about when do you want to act out the most? When do you feel the most sexual? Well, guess what, that tied your emotion. It's tied to your spirit. It's tied to your mental and physical well-being. So what are your rhythms and when do you peak and when do you valley? And start practicing understanding that and anticipating certain rhythms. And if you're in a couple, to start understanding the other person's rhythm, and to start learning how to get your spirit and emotions to train your body and your mind to tune into the other person rather than to race ahead because faster alone, stronger together, y'all. And in terms of sex, it's like oh, faster, yes? Good luck. Faster alone, for sure. See where that goes.
Benjy Uyama
Yes, this is a big wake-up call to me, because it becomes very clear when you talk about this stuff that we're designed for something. We're designed to do more than we're doing right now as a society, as a culture. And people are waking up to this even like Elon Musk himself, the guy everyone looks to for anything about anything, he talks about not jerking off. I don't know if he talks about porn, but he talks about, I think he calls it semen retention or something. Just the act of focusing your sexual energy and he's like, yes, this is a very ineffective use of our collective energy. And I read recently that on one website, one porn website, you know how many hours per year we spent on that website? 5 billion hours collectively per year and growing. As one person sat down for 5 billion hours, you know how long you'd be watching porn for? It's 600,000 years. 600,000 years of porn watched every year. Anyways, that blew my mind. I was like, man, well, God did not design us to do this. God design is for way more, I think that's really what we're touching on right here.
Andrew Love
Yes, because that's 600,000 hours of wasted bandwidth and energy, focus, that's focused energy too. That's extreme for you. When you're watching porn, you're focused, you're not also checking your emails.
Benjy Uyama
Talking to folks online.
Andrew Love
So that's extremely focused potent important energy that's being wasted, for sure. So guys, and gals, please listen up here. The more that you can understand that the real spice of life is in the internal reality that you don't need anything else in order to be extremely happy and fulfilled and all that externally. What you need to be able to do is to find the joy within and find where you're lacking that joy, start working on that a little bit internally. If you're in a relationship, you don't need to move out of New Jersey to be happy. All that did was facilitate Benjy to be in a space where he could have the bandwidth to start recuperating and repairing. And my wife and I also physically moved many times, but it wasn't the geographical location. It was just that we needed to be in the right place to be able to heal. And we need to find the right community and blah, blah, blah. So please take care of yourself internally, and watch what happens. I think a lot of people that we serve do not get this point. And they belabor the pain, they extend their pain cycles because they don't understand everything's like an internal game. This whole thing is an internal game. It's not about quitting porn, it's about being fulfilled. If you're a truly fulfilled person, you look at porn and you just cry because you're like, so sad and small of humans. We can't see that when you're in a relationship with it, and when you have emotional ties and spiritual ties with it. So please look within. Find your rhythms. If we're in a relationship, please invest in taking care of each other and learning how to flow with each other, and watch what happens. Miracles will happen. Anything else, Benjy?
Benjy Uyama
Oh, that's it. Thank you, Andrew.
Andrew Love
I'm all out of water. That's a good sign. I'm all out of saliva. We put it all on the court today. We gave it 100% coach. Hope you enjoyed it. If you have any questions, as always, let us know. If you're watching this on YouTube, oh look at you. Look at you, you made it to the end. Write a comment. Share with some buddies. And if you're listening to this on some podcast, we love you and we want to hear from you. So we'll talk to you next week.
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